Kathy Griffin Sticks Up For Same-Sex Marriage On Larry King Live
The video wasn't what spurred me, but it was the first comment by a woman named Marilyn posted at 11:09am:
August 18th, 2010 11:09 am ET
I don't understand why they need to "get married". They can live together... they can buy a house together (just make sure paper work states if it's 50/50 or 40/60 etc), they can name the other as insurance beneficiary, they can assign the other all things in their will, they can even adopt a child and name both as parent . For what reaons do they need to "get married"? If they both are employed, they will get their own social security, have their own health insurance. I just cannot think of any sound reason why they feel they NEED to get married. I could not care less except that making same sex marriage legal undermines the sanctity of what marriage should be...between one man and one woman. So stop trying to make me believe otherwise!
Wow!! I read this several times (at 12:20pm it was the only comment posted), but this is how I read it:
August 18th, 2010 11:09 am ET
I don't understand why THEY need to "get married". THEY can live together...THEY can buy a house together (just make sure paper work states if it's 50/50 or 40/60 etc), THEY can name the other as insurance beneficiary, THEY can assign the other all things in their will, THEY can even adopt a child and name both as parent . For what reason do THEY need to "get married"? If they both are employed, THEY will get their own social security, have THEIR own health insurance. I just cannot think of any sound reason why THEY feel THEY NEED to get married. I could not care less except that making same sex marriage legal undermines the sanctity of what marriage should be...between one man and one woman. So stop trying to make ME believe otherwise!
I don't think Marilyn even bothered to watch the video and only wanted to express her opinion on the issue. If she did, I don't think she watched it remembering it was not too long ago when bi-racial marriages were illegal and everything was "separate but equal." History has taught us that "separate but equal" is anything but equal. Ask someone that would be considered a minority to share their story, their parents' story, or their grand-parents' stories about "separate but equal" and they will tell you they were treated as second-class citizens and it was not equal. Reading Marilyn's comment made me think there were probably many comments like hers made to local newspapers in 1967.
As for the sanctity of marriage, I think the National Organization for Marriage has done a fabulous job at bringing back an old phrase that hearkens to the days when marriage was considered a sacred bond. Today more marriages end in divorce than don't, domestic abuse is at an all-time high, infidelity is normalized, and more children are being raised by just one or neither parent than every generation before ours. Is marriage without same-sex marriage really sacred? My parents divorced when I was 21, my husband was raised by a single mother until age 7 then sent through the foster care system until he was adopted by a single man. I know few people of my generation whose parents are still married than a generation before. I've even seen a few of my generation go through the throes of divorce. I also know a lesbian couple that have been together almost 30 years finally take the vows of marriage on the steps of the San Fransisco Courthouse shortly before Proposition 8 passed. I know several wonderful, loving, stable same-sex couples who are raising children and are actively involved in my daughter's school. Are the successful same-sex relationships less valid than the broken heterosexual ones?
I think the problem lies in the inability to separate church and state. In the church, marriage vows are sacred promises made before God and witnesses. They are solemn vows that have changed very little (depending on denomination) since they were original given. Marriage vows are history, traditional, holy even. According to the state (whichever, pick one), marriage is a legal contract. Nothing more. I recently learned that most courthouses in Los Angeles county no longer perform civil ceremonies. It's all paperwork now. This is why there are so many people like me that have been ordained to provide those that don't wish to or cannot get married in a church with a beautiful and personal wedding ceremony that honors and validates the commitment between the couple, their friends and families. And I'm talking about heterosexual couples that may have been divorced or from different religious backgrounds that prohibit church ceremonies, not same-sex couples.
Religious fringe groups are trying (and pretty successfully) to merge church and state, but the state is trying its best to keep separate. Case in point: in the case Perry v. Schwarzenegger California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger agreed that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional and the burden of proof laid on the defense to come up with how same-sex marriage would cause physical or emotional harm. Judge Vaughn Walker determined the defense was unable to provide the proof, and thus ruled Proposition 8 unconstitutional.
Now I understand how many Californians are outraged that they voted to pass a measure and their votes were taken away by the government. However, I doubt 55% of those voters (women) realize they would not have that right to vote if the Nineteenth Amendment (Women's Sufferage) had been left to popular vote in 1920. The rights of others should never be determined by popular vote because history has shown that voters usually vote to suppress those rights. The LGBT community is not trying to re-define marriage like NOM asserts. It's a state thing, not church, and marriage is not the same as civil union. This is a fight for equal rights under protection of the law. So Marilyn, same-sex marriage does NOT undermine the sanctity of marriage. Legally, it strengthens it by providing a contract with the same benefits and responsibilities. This will also increase tax revenue for the state, and revenue for small businesses (including mine!) in the wedding industry. But bottom line is I feel ALL "NEED" to get married because I was granted that right without question because I fell in love with someone, committed myself to him, and took the legal steps to join in legal matrimony, and EVERYONE should be allowed to do so regardless of their sexual orientation.